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How to order a CineGrey 3D® Material

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The CineGrey 3D® is a reference quality front projection screen material formulated for environments with minimal control over room lighting.  It was designed to enhance picture brightness, offer accurate color fidelity, and improve contrast levels.  The CineGrey 3D® is best for family rooms, educational facilities, conference rooms or any applications in which incident light is a factor.  Typical matte white surfaces wash out the images when ambient light cannot be controlled.  The CineGrey 3D® is the best choice for having a projected image with a balanced color temperature and contrast under such conditions. 

It provides flat spectral response for an accurate color balance in dark room environments as well for reference quality applications.  The CineGrey 3D® is ready for the next-generation of high-performance video.

Features & Benefits

  • Gain: 1.2
  • Viewing Angle: 90° (45° L/R)
  • ISF Certified for accurate color points, color temperature and dynamic range
  • Angular-Reflective front projection material with ambient light rejecting technology
  • Contrast enhancement over standard matte white surface
  • 4K Ultra HD, Active 3D, and HDR Ready
  • Polarized for Passive 3D applications
  • Capable of improving brightness, color, and contrast under ambient light conditions
  • Mildew resistant, screen surface can be cleaned with a microfiber cloth and water
  • Accurate color representation – Flat Spectral Response

 

Product Availability: Sable Frame, Aeon EDGE FREE® Fixed Frame, Saker Tab-Tension

  • Sable Frame CineGrey 3D® Testimonial

  • Sable Frame CineGrey 3D® at Whiskey Grade

  • Aeon Series Product Video

  • GeekBeat.TV CES 2015- Dave Rodgers Marketing Manager of Elite Screens

  • CineGrey 3D® Customer Testimonial

CineGrey 3D® Gain Chart

 

Material Tip

Projector Placement for Angular-Reflective Screen

Elite Screens, CineGrey 3D®/5D™, Starbright™ 4, Starbright 7, and PowerGain products are all Angular-Reflective Ambient-Light-Rejecting projection screen materials. In order to optimize your viewing experience, we recommend the following projector placement.

Information for obtaining a superior optical performance from the CineGrey 3D Angular Reflective ALR (Ambient Light Rejecting) Screen.

  1. Angular Reflective material is not compatible with ultra/short-throw projectors
  2. Minimum lens throw ratio 1.5x image width
  3. Ambient light must not come from the same direction as the projector


Since angular reflective means that your projected image will reflect at the mirror-opposite angle, it is important to position the projector so that the viewer will benefit by getting the best possible image performance from the projection screen.

Minimum Lens Throw Distance must be 1.5x image width

Step 1: Establish the general "eye level" of the viewers
Step 2: Set the appopriate projection level

  1. "Desktop" or "Table-mounted", projects at an upward level
  2. Ceiling mount, projects at a downward level

Step 3: Adjust your screen height level and projection angle
Input Angle (A) = Output Angle (B) aligns with the viewer's eye level

 

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Reviews

"Well worth the money"

Currently using this CineGrey 3d screen with an optoma gt1080 short throw.
Yes, short throw. I know it's not recommended but I see absolutely no problems. No glaring, oversaturated spots, etc. The projector is only a little more than 4' away from the screen. In the pictures I have the celling fan light (literally a few feet away from the projector) on, as well as 2 table lamps and a reading lamp. If that doesn't speak for the ambient light rejecting (alr) properties of this screen I don't know what does.

The colors pop more and, after recalibration, much more realistic plus much better contrast in dark scenes.

Kevin
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Model Number: ZRM-135H-CINEGREY3D 

"110 edgeless screen with biased lighting."

Amazon seems to lump the cinegrey reviews together. So my review is for the cinegrey 3D®. I bought the 135 inch cinegrey 3D® designer cut. I built a 54 by 96 frame for a 110 inch diagonal.
My frame consists of a face frame made from #3 1x4's 8 feet long. These are pocket screwed in to a rectangle face frame that is then mounted to a base frame of 2x4's on edge. The base frame gives my face frame a 3.5 inch pop out effect.
I built an edgeless designed screen. I wanted the pop out out so I could mount bias lighting behind. The bias lighting helps a bit with image overspill. I bought a $17 projector mount on Amazon, it makes getting the picture perfectly dialed in, nearly impossible. I'll be watching for a deal on a peerless mount, and I'll update my photos then. But for now, the image does not center perfectly on my screen.
On to the cinegrey. It does a fair job of rejecting ambient light. Bright scenes look good in a lit room. But even my super bright Epson 2040 really struggles with dark scenes. It could be a combination of poor LCD contrast ratio, and a dark colored screen. Dark scenes look fine in a completely dark room, but I would not want to watch them in a moderately lit room.
If you want to watch football or most animated Disney movies you will be happy with this screen material in ambient lighting situations.
I do not consider this a down side. I think for movies to be immersive, you need a completely dark room. So just watch movies at night or close off all the windows. But for football and those types of programming you'll enjoy having lights on and still have a good picture. I'll update my photos as I get better ones. For now I've posted a screen shot from the replacements. It was in a fairly well lit room. And a scene from back to the future in a mostly dark room, except for biased lighting.
As to construction, it went as expected. I sanded all my edges of my frame to give a slightly rounded over effect. I had zero issues with my fabric ripping. The fabric stretched well, and the screen surface came out perfectly smooth. My only stapler is a hammer tacker. These are for stapling roofing felt and house wrap. They are not designed for accurate stapling. So I stretched my fabric, and then held with one hand while I placed the hammer tacker where I wanted it. Then I sort of pinned the fabric with the tacker and hit it with a rubber mallet to drive the staple. This was a little cumbersome, but 95% of my staples fired exactly where I wanted them. The other 5% were not an issue.
The corners were difficult to get right. But it's not real noticeable.
I'll let my photos do the rest of the talking. I would buy this again. I paid the full Amazon list price. I think it's a good value. I have under $175 in my full setup including biased lighting. The cinegrey base (non 3D) would probably be adequate for most folks. And it's $30 cheaper.

 

trbizwiz
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Model Number: ZRM-135HW-CineGrey5D 

This is for the cinegrey3d®, and since there is not one review on amazon for this material I figured I would write one. The ambient light rejecting aspects of the material is amazing, much better then carls place alr sample I have because it doesn't reduce the amount of briteness and in fact it makes the colors more vibrant and rich because it adds a much better level of contrast which is the one thing most projectors lack.. Trust me it's awesome and you won't be disappointed with it, the 3d is ridiculous. . I can only say how good it is with my projector which is an Epson 2040... Trust me it's pretty sick..

Ronnie
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Model Number: ZRM-135H-CINEGREY3D
From an Amazon.com Customer Review


 

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FAQ's

Q: Can I buy a small screen material sample?

A: Yes, you can buy a screen material sample by clicking here.

Q: What is the difference between the CineGrey 3D® and CineGrey 5D®?

A: For a complete side by side comparison for these two materials, please click here

Q: I am interested in improving image performance (brightness, color, contrast, etc.) for projected images in a church sanctuary with high levels of ambient light. A salesperson recommended using a brighter 4700 lumen projector. Would this offer more noticeable improvement than using elite cinegray 5d® screen material? 
A: 
A brighter projector (higher lumens) will help with image brightness but it does not help with color contrast or black levels.  Since the projected image performance is important here, a contrast-enhancing material such as CineGrey 5D® is essential.  White materials will reflect all of the light in the room; the projected light, indoor lighting, and sunlight through windows and doorways, everything.  Because of this, the ambient lighting will still spoil image performance even with a bright projector.  Ambient light rejecting (ALR) screens such as CineGrey 5D® filter out indirect light allowing your projected image to be what your audience will see instead of the extra glare.  In addition to that, the screen’s filter layers enhance black levels and color contrast.  This means that shadows, textures and slight variations in color shading in the projected image can be easily seen.  Without an ALR material, such detail and clarity will not be visible. As you can see from the photos below, a bright projector does not enhance contrast.

 

 

Q: How well does the CineGrey 5D® or CineGrey 3D® perform in a dark room environment?

A: The CineGrey 5D® and CineGrey 3D® is great for dark room environment also, but we must understand its limitations.

First of all, both materials have narrow viewing angles.  So if you wish to have a wide seating arrangement after 80 degrees, you will notice a drop in brightness.

Second, because they are higher gain screens they reflect more projector brightness.  This may tire your eyes, so we recommend using a less brighter mode if your projector has a such setting.

If that is not a problem, then these materials will work.  And the best thing is, because they are angular reflective material, the projector’s light will not diffuse in all directions like a matte white material.  Meaning that they will not scatter the projector’s light and create side lighting. Thus, eliminating the need to absorb it with black velvet or paint a room really dark.

Third, because both of these materials are made with a neutral gray substrate, the color balance and temperature will be exceptional.  The dark gray also enhances contrast and great color saturation.

Q: Can I use the CineGrey 3D® material for active 3d technology or is only meant for passive 3d technology? 
A: Actually, the CineGrey 3D® material can be used for active 3d technology to make up for the brightness and contrast loss while in 3d mode.

Q: Will the CineGrey 3D®/5D® ambient light rejecting screen material cause the “hot spot” effect?

A:  Elite Screens' CineGrey 3D®/5D® is a color neutral smooth surface with sparkling elements to increase screen gain in an ambient light room environment. These special characteristics incorporates a diffusion layer over a highly reflective surface which scatters ambient light while improving picture performance with a brighter image. 

The projector itself, however also plays a big part in creating a hot spot.  Projectors highest brightness levels are focused in the center, and only about 70% to 80% in the corners.  In other words, the uniformity itself is not spread entirely even across the screen, thus creating a brighter spot in the center area.

To combat this, we recommend the following.

  1. Reduce the projector’s light output by choosing an economy mode
  2. Install the projector further away from the screen, minimum of 1.5 x the image width
  3. Go with a lower gain screen

Q: I have a short throw/ultra-short throw projector, will this projector work with the ambient light rejecting CineGrey 3D®/5D® materials?
A:  The ambient light rejecting properties of the CineGrey 3D®/5D® make the materials incompatible with short throw and ultra-short throw projects. The recommended minimum projector throw distance for these materials is 1.5 times the viewing image width. There are two main reasons behind this:

  1.  The CineGrey 3D®/5D® are high gain and angular reflective screen materials. These types of materials require proper projector and screen alignment as hot-spotting may occur if not set up correctly.
  2. Due to the CineGrey 3D®/5D® materials being angular reflective, the angle of incidence from short-throw and ultra short-throw will be too close to the material and the viewer will not experience the optimal projector/screen performance. The material will treat the projector’s light as ambient light and thus it will reject it.

Q: Why choose an “ALR” screen like CineGrey 5D® over CineWhite®?
A:
 Although matte white materials such as CineWhite® are ideal for environments where room lighting can be controlled, the image is easily washed out by ambient light. Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) materials such as the CineGrey 5D®  are suitable for environments where there are high levels of indirect (ambient) light. This material trades off on the wide diffusion uniformity of white materials in favor of a brighter (angular reflective) image. Elite’s CineGrey 5D® incorporates a diffusion layer over a highly reflective surface which scatters ambient light while improving picture performance with a brighter image. This includes color neutrality with enhanced black levels and improvement over Active 3D presentations.Andrew Robinson, an industry expert, shared his thoughts with Elite Screens about the performance of the CineGrey 5D® ALR material, "…of all the features, the one that gets me and really speaks the most is the fact that the CineGrey 5D® material from Elite Screens is the most cost effective ambient light solution on the market today. This is why I use it and this is why I recommend that you check it out for yourself. Because, at the end of the day, we all want performance but we also want incredible value  and these are two things that the CineGrey 5D® delivers in spades.” Click here to see video of Andrew Robinson's endorsement of the CineGrey 5D®.



 

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